[EVA] Positive Evidence
Federico Dominguez Pousada
federico_dominguez at ciudad.com.ar
Sun Jun 6 21:02:09 EDT 2004
From: "M" <bochan at r4.dion.ne.jp>
> Nope, not possible. It just doesn't work.
> Rei-1, Rei-2 and Rei-3 all have the same soul, and that soul is Lilith's.
> Aside from the fact that putting Lilith's soul into a clone of Adam would
> a BAD idea (forbidden joining of Adam and Lilith, anyone?), the issue of
> soul-divisibility has been argued to death on the ML, with the conclusion
> that souls are -not- divisible. When Rei-1 dies, Lilith's soul transfers
> Rei-2, and there would be nothing left to put into Eva-00.
> As for Naoko Akagi in Eva-00, I liked the idea because it was twisted.
> However, I must concede that it is highly unlikely since Eva-pilot
> synchronization works on the mother-child relationship. (Note: not the
> flesh, but the emotional bond = A^10 nerve). This alone explains Rei's
> problems since, as a clone, she does not have a mother so there is no
> natural bond between her and the soul in Eva-00. Putting Naoko Akagi into
> Eva-00 would only complicate matters given Naoko's feelings towards Rei,
> unless Nerv wanted to cripple one of their main weapons from the start,
> would be a stupid thing to do.
> The "personal data patterns" spoken of during the cross-sync tests
> definitely refers to the patterns of the pilots. At that point in the
> series the Eva were still "things", and there was no hint that they were
> "human/persons" until much later.
I have to disagree most wholeheartedly (sp??)
Quoting certain parts of our post:
"Aside from the fact that putting Lilith's soul into a clone of Adam would
be a BAD idea (forbidden joining of Adam and Lilith, anyone?),"
Gendou put Adams body into himself (a Lillith made body). Forbidding
joining. Nothing happened. Impact is a little more than that. Ritsuko says
"Now Eva has a human soul" on episode 23. All Evas except for Unit-01 were
made of Adam, human souls possesed the fruit of knowledge. Forbiding joining
of fruits took place, nothing happened.
"soul-divisibility has been argued to death on the ML, with the conclusion
that souls are -not- divisible."
I never spoke of soul disvisibility. Why isn't possible that Rei-001 had a
contact experiment with Eva-00 prior to her death? We know its possible to
have such contacts when the original subject retains its soul (Kyouko).
"synchronization works on the mother-child relationship"
Since Rei has no mother, and she synchronizes not only to herself (Rei-001)
but also Yui, its obvious that mother-child stuff isn't the factor of
synchronization. Don't discard it as important for synch but not the
"The "personal data patterns" spoken of during the cross-sync tests
definitely refers to the patterns of the pilots"
And why would be similar between Rei and Yui? Because REI WAS MADE FROM
YUI!. The similarity comes from 'the flesh'! Some fleshly determination that
makes personalities be compatible.
Just look into this:
Shinji synchs to Yui. Shinji synchs to Rei-001. Asuka synchs to Kyouko. Rei
synchs to Yui and Rei-001.
What's the common factor between all of them if its not THE FLESH?
Shinji once was the same fles as Yui. Rei once was the same flesh as Rei-001
and the same flesh as Yui. Asuka was once the same flesh as Kyouko. That's
what determines the personal patterns, and that's the exclusive factor wich
The A^10 Nerve thing isn't obsolete. Just take a look: Which is the pilot
with lowest synch rate? Rei. She doesn't have a mother, thus the A^10
properties don't work at full throttle.
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