[EVA] Positive Evidence (All)
Ebj
ebj.nerv at flashnet.it
Mon Jun 14 16:02:56 EDT 2004
> a) only supports the idea that there's a soul behind Eva-00, be it a being
> capable of deploying it by itself or a soul inside the core.
Again, no. a) disregards the possibility that the ATField is that of its
unique pilot, known to be able to project it. It is the unique combination
of Rei and Eva-00 that make this point inconclusive.
> nonwritten rules of anime don't count here.
Is that so?
> The thing is that we never see her display those abilities, and as far as
> we know she never used them until episode 24.
As I'm sure you've read in another message of mine, by this reasoning we
have to assume Rei also never uses the bathroom for anything else but
showers.
> One thing is what he believes he will find, not even something certain
> until he finds out, and another is the description of things he already
> achieved. If we discard everything Kaworu says because of the Adam error,
> then we might alos deny the ATF being the light of the soul.
Except that the ATF being the light of the soul is not in contradiction with
something else he says, whereas it is incontrovertible that he knows where
Adam's body is and then he goes after something else. Or should we think he
was so stupid as to think Gendou would spend all his time 9kms below?
> And he says why Rei is like him: because they both taken the lilim form to
> live on this planet. Nothing more, nothing less.
That doesn't leave the "I also am made from the same body as Adam" statement
in a good place.
> So strange, they needed an image for Rei 1, and they chose that one
> instead of all the rest.
Instead of what rest of psychedelic images, exactly? Aside of the already
recycled ones, of course.
> Nevertheless, the same image, and tagged as Rei-1. Saying
> that they did it just because they had no image and it proves nothing is
> assumption. Saying the image is Rei-1 is a fact.
No, saying that Rei-1 is represented by that image in that scene is a fact.
Saying that said image will always represent Rei-1 is a reverse implication
that does not stand by itself.
It would be nice to see what the script says about that episode.
> The RCB also.
The RCB takes upon itself to explain things, explicitly so. When it falls in
contradiction with what's in the show, the show has the precedence. When it
does not, it's just as fine, as long as using it doesn't require reversing
implications.
>If anyone sees the script and sees the "Rei 1" part, then
> theyll know, wouldn't they?
And, again, if they don't see it, they will SURELY know NOT. You don't need
that label to have the scene work, you don't need to know which Rei it is
that is speaking then. That is why her identity is not made clear. This
being a sidenote to the fact that the implication doesn't work the other way
around.
> I don't use that image to fit a weak theory, I use that image as a fact,
> and then work on it. The RCB is used on more weak things than that.
See above. The image being labelled Rei-1 is a fact, but it always
representing Rei-1 is not.
> Oh yes it would.
How?
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