[EVA] [META] With all the talk of the new movies

Carl Gustav Horn once at ix.netcom.com
Tue Mar 13 04:13:59 EDT 2007


I see the point, but--for example--this list has regularly featured  
translations of Sadamoto's EVA manga, even though the exclusive  
rights to publish it in English within various territories (including  
North America, where many of the readers of this list live) have been  
held under license by Viz and regularly renewed since 1997. I want to  
emphasize that I'm not pointing this out now because I believe an  
issue should necessarily be made of it, only that it represents an  
arguable violation as well, even if, like video, it is not mentioned  
in the mailing list rules.

--C.


On Mar 12, 2007, at 11:50 PM, Michael Camilleri wrote:

> Tom Schmidt wrote:
>
>> The entire point was that it's an advertisement.  Both Aaron and I
>> *initially
>> watched* Evangelion because of this very ad.  Imagine if we'd not  
>> have
>> seen
>> it?
>>
>> You pontificate on quiet living yet you publically scorn these  
>> actions.
>>
>> High horse is *indeed* the issue here.
>
> No, the issue is whether this is in violation of the list rules.
>
> Whether it's an advertisement or not is irrelevant to the issue of  
> whether it is copyrighted material (as is whether you personally  
> have a copy or not). Copyright is determined by many things but  
> whether something is or isn't an advertisement is not one of them.  
> I agree that it would seem odd for ADV to mind but then I think  
> it's odd that NBC minds about people posting clips of funny  
> sketches on Saturday Night Live. Such is the wonderful world of  
> copyright.
>
> The mailing list rules (the most recent copy I could find via  
> Google are here: http://eva.onegeek.org/pipermail/oldeva/2000-June/ 
> 035671.html) don't specifically refer to video but do state in  
> respect of audio files:
>
> 'Don't request or offer audio files. These are copyrighted, and  
> audio piracy is illegal.'
>
> I think it's safe to say the intention was to cover all copyrighted  
> material. Ebj's point was that once you had ascertained a list  
> member had a copy of the file you wanted, if you wanted to ask for  
> a copy then that should be a private matter. Doing it on list is  
> violation of the rules you agree to when you join the mailing list.
>
> Michael.
>
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