[EVA] Moura interviews with Gainax people & others

V V frumious99 at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 15 13:19:13 EST 2009


>>"And what makes you incorruptible?  In a show that is layered with
psychological, religious, scientific, artistic, and cultural concepts,
what makes you the authority?  Are you an expert in all of these fields? 
Have you enlisted experts in all of these fields to provide you with
granular, infallible analysis of all the concepts in the show that are
sometimes just thrown in to be exotic?  "

1 - Evangelion has no religious meaning.  

2 - You *do*? You're an expert in psychology, science, cultural concepts?  I gradually realized that after years of respecting you and Rachel as Fandom Gods, you have no better or worse training in this than I do:  you simply happened to watch it some years before I did and thus had access to a few more now out-of-print materials (which, thanks to our-friends-the-Russians, I now have)

3 - the men and women that made theonering.net weren't experts in every field, but they managed to get by

>>"But the show is not simple, as the
years of debate has evidenced.  You can't simply refute anyone's opinion
or interpretation as false.  "

That's the kind of thinking that will have no place after the ReVolution:  "every theory is correct" turned into "no theory is correct", and the simple answer for theories you *personally disagreed with* was to rather than argue against them based on evidence and a recourse to authority, you threw up your hands and said "well it's a complicated show, who's to say what's right"?

One of the principles of the ReVolution is that Evangelion, while a bit dense, isn't particularly more complex than Lord of the Rings was, and is (with proper guidebooks, etc.) fully understandable to every fan.  

"Also, I hate to dissapoint you, but I archive essays and articles
regardless of their accuracy.  I think it's important to preserve the
spectrum of analysis, and allow people to learn and find their own
answers.  I will continue to make them available.  And despite your
efforts to disprove people, their thoughts and feelings regarding this
wonderful series will NOT be forgotten."

You're no better than ADV for giving voice to Sean McCoy's crazy theories; how do you reconcile those?

and by the same logic, do you preserve *mine*?

It's not a matter of rival theories anymore; but of rival methodologies.  "The ReVolution" is tossing out the old methodology of "we're free to believe what we want, and tell ourselves what we want to hear", with a recourse to authority to find out exactly what "Hideaki Anno's Evangelion" was about.

>"Please stop speaking in first person plural, it makes you sound like a
crazyperson."

Oh you misunderstand; when I say "we" I mean the boys and girls that support the ReVolution.  

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, Aaron Clark <aaronc1 at umbc.edu> wrote:

From: Aaron Clark <aaronc1 at umbc.edu>
Subject: Re: [EVA] Moura interviews with Gainax people & others
To: "The english-language evangelion mailing list." <evangelion at eva.onegeek.org>
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 5:15 PM

> I intend to analyze and refute all of the wrong ones

> going to go through, and put each essay into one of two categories:
> "good" analysis, and "this is just some guy spouting off opinions with no
> basis in fact"

> Arguably, we should simply let the "bad" essays die off and be forgotten,

> we need to move back to "evidence"; a lot of this stuff was just opinion
> on "what Eva meant to me personally" (which was often "Rei is kind and
> likes me!")

And what makes you incorruptible?  In a show that is layered with
psychological, religious, scientific, artistic, and cultural concepts,
what makes you the authority?  Are you an expert in all of these fields? 
Have you enlisted experts in all of these fields to provide you with
granular, infallible analysis of all the concepts in the show that are
sometimes just thrown in to be exotic?  Most people who have asserted
their opinion on Evangelion (or anything for that matter!) believed they
were true and correct at the time.  But the show is not simple, as the
years of debate has evidenced.  You can't simply refute anyone's opinion
or interpretation as false.  Those are the workings of a deluded
megalomaniac.

Also, I hate to dissapoint you, but I archive essays and articles
regardless of their accuracy.  I think it's important to preserve the
spectrum of analysis, and allow people to learn and find their own
answers.  I will continue to make them available.  And despite your
efforts to disprove people, their thoughts and feelings regarding this
wonderful series will NOT be forgotten.

> we

Please stop speaking in first person plural, it makes you sound like a
crazyperson.

--Aaron
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