[EVA] Religion and Gainax was RE: [EVA] Moura interviews (Minor 2.0 spoilers)

[V V]

stare long enough at an ink blot, do you see "subtext"?  Eva is not an ink blot.  It doesn't matter what subtext you *invent*.  Theoretically, Anno could flat out tell us what this was supposed to mean and I'd be happy; the only reason we're discussing it is because he didn't.

--- On Sun, 12/27/09, EB <marestes at gmail.com> wrote:

From: EB <marestes at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [EVA] Religion and Gainax was RE: [EVA] Moura interviews (Minor  2.0 spoilers)
To: "The english-language evangelion mailing list." <evangelion at eva.onegeek.org>
Date: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 7:58 PM

They would if they searched for information on the net, or on several other
websites; jumping into conclussions about a show without having proper
factual information leads everyone down this precise road.

The reason why some fans appreciate subs over dubs is because sometimes, the
translator needs to sacrifice "meaning" for "syntaxes", where you know what
the is originally meant to be said, but you can't put it as such on the
script or, if you do, you need to scribble footnotes and translator notes

*Spoilers*
Like the usage of Dante's inferno river motifs in 2.0
*Spoilers*

Personally, I think both subs and dubs have their usage.

Which brings me to my "back on topic" of sorts; I think another one of the
reasons why Anno used Christianity/Kabbalah was precisely because he knew
tranltaing the judeo-christian dichotomy as well as kabbalism from their
original language into japanese would create something that, when translated
would mean either nothing, or something.

Religion, Christinanity especially in japan was seen as a counter culture of
sorts, it would stand to reason that if Anno wanted to make an anime that
would break the mold, he would have to use several themes to make them fit;
does this mean that there is no religion undertones on Eva? Personally, i
see them; Shinji as a version of Jesus himself, Gendo could probably be seen
as Herod, Fuyutsuki as Pontius Pilate; if you follow Dan Brown's idea that
redheads=the holy grial, there you have a reason why Asuka is there, and her
mixed european ancestry would mean she's part of the merovingian line.

All this is, of course, simple posturing, it doesn't mean that's what *I*
see in eva, but it means that if you want to look into subtext, and you look
hard enough, you will probably find something there.

On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 12:58 PM, V V <frumious99 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Yes.  Aaron, Rachel & Co however have glowingly described the old "hunting
> around to borrow VHS tapes from other people" days.....
>
> Regardless, the problem is that most "fans on the street" (i.e. people who
> watched after 2003) ...don't know much about cast & crew statements that
> "the religion didn't mean anything" and a poor job was done of informing
> them.....
>
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