[EVA] Extremely Bitchy Off-Topic

dreamreaver tcneo at cyberway.com.sg
Sat Nov 22 01:20:27 EST 1997


>> [dreamreaver strectches his finger ala Bart-Simpson-style]
>> 
>> Before I continue, pls note that this is my personal opinion sadly obscured
>> by insufficient knowledge of the topic at hand. Hence, any views may be
>> offensive, biased or untrue. Dreamreaver, aka Neo Tiong Cheng, aka The
>> Slug, aka ..... [snip] would apologize for any inconvenience, distress or
>> outrage brought about by afore-mentioned views. Any information or
>> clarifiction is welcome. Also, any flames or arguments are welcomed either.
>>
>
>Actually, I don't think you following statement is too opiniated at all.
>I find most of the things that you mentioned to be facts.
>
thanks, terimah kasih.

> 
>> [here goes, dreamreaver in babble mode]
>> 
>> My personal opinion of japanese culture as of now (subjected to change) is
>> one of extreme liberalism and westernization. No doubt that it is a Asain
>> culture but years of influence by the americans (since SCAP in 1945)
>> created a very free society based along the lines of its western
counterparts.
>> 
>
>You just realize that?  In my personal opinion, the reason why so many
>people are interested in Japanese culture in the very first place is that
>it is by far the most ambiguous one (I myself am very ambiguous about
>this culture too, but for other minute reasons).  Why? Japan is one of the
>most developed countries, both economically and technologically, still,
>its traditional customs are being very well preserved w/ the best efforts,
>i.e. wearing kimono at festivals and lots of other acient rituals.  These
>two contraditions are what fascinated foreigners, mainly westerners, the
>most as far as I'm concerned (I have a different opinion on this though).
>Not to mention hundreds of thousands of people like us trying to learn the
>Japanese language just for the sake of reading manga/watching anime.
>
>
>
>> I think the *pop* culture of Japan (as seen in the manga, magazine and
>> anime) is rather crude, i.e. based on the attraction of the fairer sex,
>> i.e. perversion. Reasons? Once, i walked in Kinokuniya and in the magazines
>> section, what do i see? Covers and covers of scantily-clad young females.
>> Even books and mangas have similar covers to attract *hot-blooded* youths.
>> As for anime, i think it is targetted for the youths and adults, rather
>> than children, with serious and (sometimes adult) material and issues and
>> gore and *sex*. Examples of anime are Ranma 1/2 and Eva !?
>> 
>> Perhaps I may be wrong. Most society exhibit the above-mentioned symptoms.
>> That is to say if a society is that pure and holy. They are probably
>> droids. Henceforth, i can only say that the Japanese are more daring (a
>> good thing, IMHO) and are willing to discuss such ideas more openly.
>> (Unlike other conservative Asian society where such stuff are still frowned
>> upon).
>>
>
>So what are you trying to say?  The Japanese moral standard, or that of
>this world in general, is getting lower because of manga and other
>entertainment media?  I'm just curious why you bring up this issue all of
>a sudden.
>
no, what we see in manga and stuff today is an indication of the *openess
of the society as a whole. I would think of manga and anime as a reflection
of a society and not as a factor bringing forth the downfall in moral
standards. Although there is such a possibility too.

I brought this up because..... [snippitty-snip] read the previous threads.


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