[EVA] 2APT Part-2: A fresh start
nanashi96 at hotmail.com
Fri Apr 7 18:11:50 EDT 2000
>>No rebuttal, no refutation, no counter examples -- just "not quite solid
enough evidence"? What more do you need? A signed statement from Anno?<<
That would help, yes.
Seriously though, if you want my rebuttal, here it is.
>>The Evas' ability to *neutralize* ATFields<<
>>lance which is capable of *piercing* even an A.T.Field.<<
Sure. Piercing and neutralizing. No ambiguity, yeah? Now, here's the
question. What's the difference between the two? (See below.)
>>In ep2, we see the interaction between Eva-01 and Sachiel's ATF, and also
the ATF phase-matching and neutralization waveforms on the MAGI screen.<<
>>In ep22 the Lance is momentarily stopped by Arael's ATF. However, instead
of neutralizing the ATF, it instead develops spiral thrusters and pushes
through the ATF by sheer force.<<
You're putting words to an image we see. Sure. The methods of passage
through the ATF *will* be somewhat different, at least in appearances. (I
don't expect the Lance to be able to rip apart an ATF with its hands.) Is
the difference a technical difference, though? More to the point, is it
demonstrable that the Lance *doesn't* "phase-match and neutralize" the ATF
barrier at the point of its contact? Is it demonstrable that the mechanism
by which piercing occurs isn't the same as neutralization?
To my knowledge, no such fact is recorded. Other than the "non-ambiguous"
difference between the definitions of the various manners in which passage
through an ATF is possible, there is no solid evidence.
>>Which is why it can't be used as a basis for argument. In the Evaverse,
there are living organic objects which do not have souls -- the Rei clones
and the Eva before investment with human souls. When discussing souls with
regards to Eva, this is the only level of soul which is relevant, since this
is the level which the creators explicitly stated in the series.<<
So . . . it's not possible for a "souless Angel" to exist?
>>With the ATFT, you are trying to add interpretation which was *not* stated
in the series, and which was clearly *refuted* in the series.<<
I note it as such. This discussion isn't about the validity of the ATFT. I'm
not gonna push it
>>Yes it is -- each of the Angels is born with their own S^2. Unless of
course you want to imply that S^2 can be shared/transferred between entities
like souls... <<
Is this not possible?
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