[EVA] Lance = S^2 Proof (L=S^2P) [Expanded/New]
nanashi96 at hotmail.com
Sat Apr 8 23:11:33 EDT 2000
>>The line from the DEATH/Director's Cut scene. The Lance was taken from
Adam. If it is/has an S^2, then ipso facto it must be Adam's.<<
By the same logic:
The Angels came from Adam. If they have S^2s, then ipso facto their S^2s
must be Adam's.
True? No. Flimsy logic.
>>You stated first that the Lance could be an Angel, which would require it
to have an S^2, so the burden of proof is also on you. I am more than
willing to drop the L=S^2P for the time being, since my original aim is the
2APT, which requires the elimination of the Lance as a candidate.<<
Until proven otherwise, all possibilities are open. (Yes, including the
"Shinji is a clone" thing.) The Lance *could* be an Angel. That's a given.
The purpose of your proof is to show that it *could not* be, hence limiting
the possibilities. As is, the burden of proof is on you. I merely stated
that such a thing is possible.
>>So I ask again: Does the Lance contain an S^2?<<
>From the point of view that the Lance is the 2nd Angel, yes. From a more
neutral point of view, not necessarily. And even if the Lance does have an
S^2, it doesn't have to be Adam's.
>>If the Lance has an S^2, then the S^2 is Adam's.<<
That's an unfounded statement. Prove it.
>>In this case it cannot be an Angel, and would thus not have a soul.<<
The key words being "in this case." Prove your case.
>>If it does not have an S^2, then again it cannot be an Angel and would not
have a soul.<<
Correct. *If* it does not have an S^2.
>>So which is it?<<
Me in a lose-lose situation? Get real. First prove the validity of your
"Lance contains Adam's S^2" statement. *Then* ask.
>Simply because something comes from Adam and contains an S^2 doesn't mean
that the S^2 contained is *Adam's.*<
>>Oh really? And how would you propose to achieve that?<<
1) Angels 3-16 come from Adam.
2) They contain S^2s.
3) The S^2s aren't Adam's.
>Not only this, the very idea that the Lance contains an S^2 is in question.
>>That is what I am asking you. Do you still say the Lance is the 2nd Angel?
If so, then you are saying that it has an S^2. If not, then we can end this
part of the 2APT and move on. So which is it?<<
For the intents and purposes of my current argument, no. The Lance does not
necessarily contain an S^2. Which is not to say it doesn't. Merely that:
1) The Lance was used in the contact experiment involving the S^2 theory.
2) Just because it was involved doesn't mean that it *contains* an S^2.
Merely that between Adam and the Lance, there's at least one S^2.
3) If I claim that it was the Lance's S^2 that was engaged, it doesn't mean
Adam didn't one as well.
4) If I claim that Adam's S^2 was the one engaged, it doesn't mean that the
Lance didn't have an one.
5) For all we know, it might have been a contact experiment involving two
S^2s. (In which case, both Adam and the Lance would've had their S^2s
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