[EVA] Re: [spoilers] RE: EOE interpretations
archer at senet.com.au
archer at senet.com.au
Thu Aug 30 18:10:08 EDT 2001
Quoting Greg Muir <gregmuir at adelphia.net>:
> > I think she trusted him.
> "Sorry, world! You know how moody teenagers are. Gomen nasai!"
As is stated in the movie and RCB, Rei was the one to entrust Instrumentality to
Shinji. If you remember, Gendou knew when Unit 01 activated, and there is no
reason to think he didn't expect Shinji to be piloting it at the time. Assuming
this is true, it is likely that Unit 01's role in the process was independent of
the pilot, and the pilot (by the designs of his mother) happened to be Shinji.
> How so? If they're head trips what they say is suspect. If they are the
> characters, well, what they said didn't necessarally seem to follow
You'll need to present clearer evidence that the scenes from the second half of
EOE are comprised of Shinji's head-trips and not influenced by the tantai
consciousness or the Instrumentality process itself (the fine mechanics of which
are nebulous at best), other than just "these things have already been
established in the series".
> If his head trips could pull in information he's never learned for himself
> then we're talking about some sort of group mind telepathy.
As in where one cannot tell where one ends and others begin? That would be Rei's
"Sea of LCL".
> > That's not how it looks when the the souls spread out over the Earth.
> So there's orbital LCL and planetary LCL? It's a little late at night to
> whip out EoE but my recollection is that the red spray appeared to be made
> up of discrete motes of light, i.e. souls.
The point Brendan made is quite legitimate - the spreading glowing things look
the same as what got collected by the Black Moon but Lilith's neck would only
seems to be spraying a liquid which *will form spheroid globules in freefall*.
> My understanding is that the LCL represents the earthly remains of
> the cast-off bodies. Bodies go sploosh, soul goes shooting up into the sky,
> Rei plays cat in the craddle with them. When Shinji rejects instrumentality
> Rei blows apart and the spray of red are the souls of humanity left in
Even if this is right, which appears to me to be contradicted by scenes already
mentioned, Shinji returned to the surface from orbit and got out of the LCL sea.
If the souls wish to return to their forms, as is suggested that they will, then
what's stopping them? Certainly not the little matter of getting out of an entry
I think your interpretation draws heavily on visual information which then
affects the meaning of the dialogue, i.e. what is said at the end of the process
comprises some form of hallucination in Shinji's mind if I understand correctly,
when IMHO it is more reliable to apply the dialogue to the visuals, the latter
being of a surreal nature, and then interpret it all from there.
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